In this episode of Leading BOLDLY, Matt and Jenny sit down with Jonathan Armes, a leadership psychologist and founder of Capital Shift, to explore the unseen force shaping how we lead: the mind.

Jonathan shares his story—from a childhood filled with introspective conversations to a career dedicated to understanding the human condition. With clarity and humility, he explains why so many leaders unknowingly operate from a place of misperception—and how a deeper awareness of our thinking can radically transform how we show up in the world.

From rewiring how we experience uncertainty to unlocking innate problem-solving abilities, this conversation is a powerful reminder that bold leadership doesn’t begin with strategy—it begins with self.

🎧 Tune in to hear:

• Why we’re not passive recipients of life—but creators of our experience

• How leaders can tap into their innate creativity and clarity under pressure

• The core idea behind Thought Intelligence—and how it’s changing leadership

• Why the most powerful tool for navigating uncertainty is understanding your own mind

• Jonathan’s recommended books, frameworks, and music that fuel bold thinking

This episode is an invitation to lead from within—and to see leadership not as something we do, but something we are.

🔗 Resources & Mentions:

• Capital Shift – Website

• Book: Do You Know a Secret? by Marie Arymar

• Book: Autobiography of a Yogi by Paramahansa Yogananda

• Music: Jacob Collier Little Blue

• Framework: Transactional Analysis (PAC Model)

• Thought Intelligence Program

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